UPDATED Thru March 17, 2018
For competing beliefs who has the burden of proof ?
This post is not about proving or disproving a particular belief. It is about who shares the greatest burden of proof when it comes to competing beliefs. {ETA May 30, 2017 - On whom does the burden of proof fall more greatly on.}
The answer must consider at least the following:
1) Ranking the burdens of proof.
2) The nature of the belief.
3) Null Hypothesis.
4) Consequences of the belief.
(ETA 5/28/2017 The 4 ‘principles’ I have outlined are not mutually exclusive but may work together. See below)
Consider three people, call them T, AT, AG.
Ranking the Burdens of Proof
It is usually the case there is a scale of the burden of proof. This will become clear as you read this post.
The Nature of the Belief
a) The person making any claim of belief has at least some burden of proof.
Consider this question: Is mental telepathy real ?
T - I believe it is
AT - I believe it is not real.
AG - I have no belief on the matter.
AG is making no claim of belief. It can be argued AG has the least burden of proof.
b) The more extraordinary the person’s belief the more the burden falls on that individual.
Consider the belief that walking on the lines on concrete pavement causes bad luck. Then consider the belief that wealth is correlated with health. The first belief would have a higher burden of proof than the latter belief. {ETA May 30, 2017 - The burden of proof falls more greatly on the first belief.}
Or consider this question: Is mental telepathy real ?
T - I believe it is
AT - I believe it is not real.
AG - I have no belief on the matter.
Mental telepathy if real would require rethinking much of science. It is an extraordinary claim. The order of the burden of proof is T, then AT. AG is essentially neutral and so perhaps he has the least burden of proof. {ETA May 30, 2017 - The burden of proof falls more greatly on T.}
Another Example
Consider this question. Do you believe a man was 100% dead and after sometime rose from the grave.
T - I believe it.
AT - I do not believe it.
AG - I have no belief on the matter.
A 100% dead man coming back to life is an extraordinary claim. The order of the burden of proof is T, then AT. AG is essentially neutral and so perhaps he has the least burden of proof. {ETA May 30, 2017 - The burden of proof falls more greatly on the T.}
Null Hypothesis
Typically when we do a study of the effectiveness of a new drug, the Null Hypotheses is the drug does not work. Then evidence is gathered to overturn the Null Hypothesis.
We don’t start with the Null Hypotheses that the drug does work and seek to overturn that Hypothesis. In other words, the burden of proof is laid on the person believing the drug does work.
Did Humans evolve from prior primates ?
AT - I believe they did
T - I believe it did not happen
AG - I have no belief on the matter
The Null Hypothesis is Humans Did not Evolve from Primates.
Using the typical Null Hypothesis approach, AT has the greatest burden of proof.
Consequences of the Belief
Consider this:
A man is accused of murder.
T - I believe he did it.
AT - I don’t believe he did it.
AG - I have no belief on the matter.
Since a life is at stake, T has the greatest burden of proof. {ETA May 30, 2017 - The burden of proof falls more greatly on T.}
Conclusion
Consider Orthodox Judaism (OJ)
T - I believe it is true
AT - I don’t believe it is true
AG - I have no opinion on the matter
Lets apply the principles I have outlined:
First: Is OJ an extraordinary belief ? I think everybody will agree it is. The greatest burden of proof is on T. {ETA May 30, 2017 - The burden of proof falls more greatly on T.}
Second: The Null Hypothesis is OJ beliefs are not reality. The greatest burden of proof falls on T. {ETA May 30, 2017 - The burden of proof falls more greatly on T.}
Does belief in OJ have important consequences ? If you believe it, and especially if you follow OJ it can have important consequences and enormous costs, including some extremely negative ones. Again the greatest burden of proof falls on T. {ETA May 30, 2017 - The burden of proof falls more greatly on T.}
Some may argue the AT (if brought up as an OJ, call him ACJA) can potentially be punished by G-d and so that also has consequences thus the greater burden of proof should fall on ACJA. However, that is a threat of punishment, and a threat of a potential consequence versus a real consequence. The latter is more compelling. In addition, other religions also have threats, some threats even worse than OJ if ACJA don't follow those religions. Does ACJA have the burden of proof to disprove every religion in the history of mankind ? Moreover, just like in the murder case a potential murderer may walk free, nevertheless, the burden of proof falls on T.
Do god(s) exist ?
T - I believe so.
AT - I don’t believe so,
AG - I have no belief on the matter.
Apply the principles I have outlined.
First: Is belief in god(s) an extraordinary belief ? Something that can not be seen, heard, detected in the lab or by science, tasted, felt, smelled etc: would qualify as extraordinary. The greatest burden of proof is on T. {ETA May 30, 2017 - The burden of proof falls more greatly on T.}
Second: The Null Hypothesis is god(s) are not reality. The greatest burden of proof falls on T. {ETA May 30, 2017 - The burden of proof falls more greatly on T.}
Third: Does belief in god(s) have important consequences ? Such beliefs are almost always associated with religions which are associated with other beliefs, rituals, laws etc: and if you follow the religion it can have enormous consequences and costs, including some extremely negative ones. Again the greatest burden of proof falls on T. (Also, see my comments on OJ above).{ETA May 30, 2017 - The burden of proof falls more greatly on T.}
Belief in god(s) and not any religion, something like Deism would have fewer potential negative consequences unless it is used as a crutch to avoid learning about how nature works.
{ETA May 28, 2017 The introduction mentioned the '4 principles' may interact.
For example: There is a man who can without any trickery walk on 10 foot deep water.
T - I believe it is true
AT - I don’t believe it is true
AG - I have no opinion on the matter.
Such an event is outside our everyday experience, miraculous even. Because it is so extraordinary the null hypothesis is the man does not walk on water. T has the greatest burden of proof. {ETA May 30, 2017 - The burden of proof falls more greatly on T.}
The same reasoning would apply to belief in anything extraordinary and outside of everyday experience: Supernatural, souls, demons, angels, gods, devils, life after death, etc: Because those beliefs are extraordinary the null hypothesis should be they all are false. Thus the greatest burden of proof falls on anybody who believes such things.}{ETA May 30, 2017 - The burden of proof falls more greatly on people who believe such things.}
{ETA 3/17/2018
From the book - Invitation To Critical Thinking by Rudinow and Barry fifth edition 2004
Page 237
In general the burden of proof is placed on the affirmative position. The reason being it is much harder to prove the negative. For example someone who believes the healing power of the mind or the existence of intelligent extraterrestrial life is expected to produce the evidence. It would very difficult for somebody to prove intelligent extraterrestrial life does not exist.
[Same applies to people who argue for existence of souls or supernatural beings. It is they who have the burden of proof. Somebody who claims a holy book is from the supernatural has the burden of proof of showing so.] }
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